Mitthrawnuruodo
Sep 14, 12:18 PM
Well... my girlfriend is ready to kill me, quite literally... when I ordered her nano, I also ordered a second skin for my MacBook... and the second skin has delayed the estimated shipping time - from 3 days up to 1-2 weeks.
I'm so dead... :o
People posting images of their new nanos doesn't help...
I'm so dead... :o
People posting images of their new nanos doesn't help...
Analog Kid
Aug 3, 02:16 AM
It's a usb wireless card, I presume. He holds it up, flicks out the (usb) connector and plugs it into the left side of the Macbook. While he sticks in the card he says: "...we're using 3rd party hardware..."
I hope you're not referring to me when you say "people are so quick to call this an unfair attack on Apple". :confused:
Not referring to you at all, Gekko. You're adding the kind of informed discussion I look forward to here. And thanks for helping the "blind" and cluing me in on what was going on.
I'm finally out from behind the firewall and watched the video, which I have to say is very well done.
The title of the demo is "Device Drivers: Don't build a house on shaky ground." They are drawing attention to a serious problem and most people here are missing the point because all the blood rushed to their heads when they saw the Mac logo.
They clearly say this is not Apple's problem, it's because of buggy code in a 3rd party driver. They're using the Mac for a reason here-- they are specifically making the point that it doesn't matter how much trust you put into your OS vendor, you can get hosed by any poorly made USB thingy that you stick in the side.
Take that home with you-- Apple may have a more secure OS but all of that can go out the window with a bad peripheral. This could just as easily have been a video camera that had a malicious file loaded onto it and a bad driver. Or, it could have been a printer with a bad print driver and a bad Bluetooth implementation that let an attacker pass through the printer into your machine.
They didn't run this demo live because they didn't want anyone in the audience to sniff the traffic and release it into the wild. Very responsible to the verge of being paranoid.
If there is a problem here it with the Washington Post who didn't clearly explain the problem. Maybe they didn't understand it themselves...
Drivers are an achilles heel of any OS. They give direct access to the kernel and bypass any security the OS can try to provide. They almost have to do that if you're going to allow 3rd party hardware to work with the machine. It was also a poorly written driver that allowed the DVD encryption to be cracked-- the vendor left the keychain available in plaintext.
This is a very difficult problem to solve. MS has talked about only allowing "signed drivers" to be run-- meaning that MS has to approve anything before it's loaded and that caused a developer outcry because it made MS the gatekeeper of all new hardware.
One way to minimize the exposure is to rely on a small number of standard interfaces. Less interfaces mean less points of entry that need to be tested. Apple does this very well-- almost out of necessity. Ever notice how every new piece of hardware comes with a disc you need to install under Windows but just seems to work with your Mac? It's because Apple connects through a standard interface (say, Mass Storage, or Digital Camera) and the vendor tries to get fancy for Windows and roll their own. They do it for windows because they think it's worth the effort to "differentiate" themselves in that crowded market while Mac users can see that those bells or whistles aren't necessary.
The point of the video is to show that the bells and whistles can also be dangerous.
I hope you're not referring to me when you say "people are so quick to call this an unfair attack on Apple". :confused:
Not referring to you at all, Gekko. You're adding the kind of informed discussion I look forward to here. And thanks for helping the "blind" and cluing me in on what was going on.
I'm finally out from behind the firewall and watched the video, which I have to say is very well done.
The title of the demo is "Device Drivers: Don't build a house on shaky ground." They are drawing attention to a serious problem and most people here are missing the point because all the blood rushed to their heads when they saw the Mac logo.
They clearly say this is not Apple's problem, it's because of buggy code in a 3rd party driver. They're using the Mac for a reason here-- they are specifically making the point that it doesn't matter how much trust you put into your OS vendor, you can get hosed by any poorly made USB thingy that you stick in the side.
Take that home with you-- Apple may have a more secure OS but all of that can go out the window with a bad peripheral. This could just as easily have been a video camera that had a malicious file loaded onto it and a bad driver. Or, it could have been a printer with a bad print driver and a bad Bluetooth implementation that let an attacker pass through the printer into your machine.
They didn't run this demo live because they didn't want anyone in the audience to sniff the traffic and release it into the wild. Very responsible to the verge of being paranoid.
If there is a problem here it with the Washington Post who didn't clearly explain the problem. Maybe they didn't understand it themselves...
Drivers are an achilles heel of any OS. They give direct access to the kernel and bypass any security the OS can try to provide. They almost have to do that if you're going to allow 3rd party hardware to work with the machine. It was also a poorly written driver that allowed the DVD encryption to be cracked-- the vendor left the keychain available in plaintext.
This is a very difficult problem to solve. MS has talked about only allowing "signed drivers" to be run-- meaning that MS has to approve anything before it's loaded and that caused a developer outcry because it made MS the gatekeeper of all new hardware.
One way to minimize the exposure is to rely on a small number of standard interfaces. Less interfaces mean less points of entry that need to be tested. Apple does this very well-- almost out of necessity. Ever notice how every new piece of hardware comes with a disc you need to install under Windows but just seems to work with your Mac? It's because Apple connects through a standard interface (say, Mass Storage, or Digital Camera) and the vendor tries to get fancy for Windows and roll their own. They do it for windows because they think it's worth the effort to "differentiate" themselves in that crowded market while Mac users can see that those bells or whistles aren't necessary.
The point of the video is to show that the bells and whistles can also be dangerous.
arkmannj
Mar 12, 03:23 PM
I'm pretty sure Apple doesn't want any other news than the iPad until the iPad is released.
My guess is New MBP's won't be released until atleast a week or two after the iPad.
My guess is New MBP's won't be released until atleast a week or two after the iPad.
CalBoy
Mar 29, 11:44 AM
No I do not blame Apple for this at all but that doesn't mean it's not frustrating for me. If they need to change their timeline of course they should but i am not sure i can stomach another 6mo to a year on a 3GS.
I have a 3gs still as well (since I never got my white iPhone 4...), and if any of these rumors turn out to be true, my plan is to string along the 3gs until the next iPhone is launched, or until it becomes clear that a hardware update isn't on the horizon.
However, I think it's very unlikely that Apple is going to slip so far with iPhone launching. September has always been the month of iPods. There is no sense in bottlenecking multiple product launches into a single month. If this rumor is true, it would mean that Apple might launch Lion, an iPhone, iPods, and possibly even iOS all in the same month or in close proximity. This goes against Apple's methods in every way. The iOS lineup is very clearly spaced out to take advantage of both the back-to-school season and Christmas.
Launching 3 or 4 products within a few weeks of each other would cause problems for Foxconn, suppliers, shippers, 3rd party retailers, and Apple Stores.
Thank you! Finally some sense. AT&T doesn't even have LTE deployed yet. They say on the official At&t FAQ (http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&ft=&ps=solutionPanels&locale=en_US&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115944) that LTE will start being deployed by the middle of 2011. Even if Apple waited until September the LTE would just be getting started and the coverage would be too lacking.
LTE iPhone is in 2012
Indeed. Apple hasn't exactly been too keen to pounce on the bleed edge of technology, especially when it comes to tech that other companies are responsible for managing and deploying.
I could be horribly wrong, of course, but I just think there are too many problems with these September theories to give them much credence. There might be a genuine technical problem that's causing problems, but that's quite different from an intentional desire to hold back the phone to implement a new, barely available, piece of tech.
I have a 3gs still as well (since I never got my white iPhone 4...), and if any of these rumors turn out to be true, my plan is to string along the 3gs until the next iPhone is launched, or until it becomes clear that a hardware update isn't on the horizon.
However, I think it's very unlikely that Apple is going to slip so far with iPhone launching. September has always been the month of iPods. There is no sense in bottlenecking multiple product launches into a single month. If this rumor is true, it would mean that Apple might launch Lion, an iPhone, iPods, and possibly even iOS all in the same month or in close proximity. This goes against Apple's methods in every way. The iOS lineup is very clearly spaced out to take advantage of both the back-to-school season and Christmas.
Launching 3 or 4 products within a few weeks of each other would cause problems for Foxconn, suppliers, shippers, 3rd party retailers, and Apple Stores.
Thank you! Finally some sense. AT&T doesn't even have LTE deployed yet. They say on the official At&t FAQ (http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&ft=&ps=solutionPanels&locale=en_US&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115944) that LTE will start being deployed by the middle of 2011. Even if Apple waited until September the LTE would just be getting started and the coverage would be too lacking.
LTE iPhone is in 2012
Indeed. Apple hasn't exactly been too keen to pounce on the bleed edge of technology, especially when it comes to tech that other companies are responsible for managing and deploying.
I could be horribly wrong, of course, but I just think there are too many problems with these September theories to give them much credence. There might be a genuine technical problem that's causing problems, but that's quite different from an intentional desire to hold back the phone to implement a new, barely available, piece of tech.
tann
May 5, 10:21 AM
This would indeed be awesome for people like me who quite like the 3D stuff and don't get headaches with it.
But if they were to do it they'd have to make sure EVERYTHING that was in 3D was also in 2D so people who can't see 3D/don't like it don't have to use it.
I'd have though iPad 3 would have been a bit soon though?
Maybe iPad 4?
But if they were to do it they'd have to make sure EVERYTHING that was in 3D was also in 2D so people who can't see 3D/don't like it don't have to use it.
I'd have though iPad 3 would have been a bit soon though?
Maybe iPad 4?
Secruoser
Mar 30, 01:18 AM
Hopefully when the day arrives that Jobs moves on, integrity, ethics and truth will be allowed back into the organization.
Integrity, ethics and truth will never happen in a competitive social system that is based on money and profit unless the company wants to go bankrupt. That's what PR is for: telling lies in the most acceptable way to the public. Still lies.
Integrity, ethics and truth will never happen in a competitive social system that is based on money and profit unless the company wants to go bankrupt. That's what PR is for: telling lies in the most acceptable way to the public. Still lies.
philr5150
Mar 25, 04:15 PM
Do you switch it on?
Of course, or I wouldn't get 36 hours would I? :confused:
Of course, or I wouldn't get 36 hours would I? :confused:
m-dogg
Aug 24, 12:21 PM
Interesting.....powerbooks and ibooks sold through this month but not the batteries in the Macbook or Macbook Pro....
The newer MB/MBP models use a different type of battery.
Sounds like I'll be impacted. Bought a refurb powerbook earlier this year. No battery problems with it though...
The newer MB/MBP models use a different type of battery.
Sounds like I'll be impacted. Bought a refurb powerbook earlier this year. No battery problems with it though...
Ugg
May 1, 07:25 PM
Corvus, glad to hear you, your wife and the cats are ok. I'm sure it must have been terrifying.
Glad your MBP survived too!
Glad your MBP survived too!
cocky jeremy
Apr 2, 02:50 AM
I don't care about megapixels. Is the sensor itself going to be better quality? Let more light in? Etc. That's what i want to know.
mshepherd
Nov 3, 12:47 PM
Why doesn't adobe fix flash on the mac before they complain about not being able to work on the iphone?
Mark-Mac-Attack
Oct 14, 04:26 PM
Well i've done updated setups before, but never past and present (as the title of the threads suggests we should post). So, here we are.
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Mark.
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Mark.
Peace
Sep 6, 08:44 AM
Cool!!
I ordered a 20" last night hoping they would update before they shipped it.Woke up this morning to see that big 24" model so I called Apple and canceled my yet to be built 20" and got the new one..
3 Gigs Ram!!
Better than 2 but I cant see why they cant do 4..
Ship date of the 15th for CTO though..Guess I can wait.
I ordered a 20" last night hoping they would update before they shipped it.Woke up this morning to see that big 24" model so I called Apple and canceled my yet to be built 20" and got the new one..
3 Gigs Ram!!
Better than 2 but I cant see why they cant do 4..
Ship date of the 15th for CTO though..Guess I can wait.
stringent
May 4, 05:54 AM
Is this worth upgrading from CS5?
I see Adobe are doing what Quark used to do, upgrade and charge mega bucks for it. Despite Adobe saying they wouldn't do this (when they started out with InDesign) they have gotten greedy.
I see Adobe are doing what Quark used to do, upgrade and charge mega bucks for it. Despite Adobe saying they wouldn't do this (when they started out with InDesign) they have gotten greedy.
drlunanerd
Sep 12, 01:41 PM
Gapless playback.
w00t OMG LOL etc.
:D
w00t OMG LOL etc.
:D
john123
Mar 14, 10:44 PM
The sort of money you put down on a Mac you shouldn't expect anything less than USB 3.0 from here on out. Core 2 Duo in 2010 leaves a lot to be desired.
This is pretty academic, since you've always paid a premium for the Apple logo. Rarely does a Mac laptop have cutting edge hardware across the board (see the graphics cards in laptops for an example of something that seems always a generation or more behind). The sad reality is that even though you're right, they'll continue to sell those laptops at a prodigious rate. Most people don't care about technical specs as much as they do the overall user experience.
This is pretty academic, since you've always paid a premium for the Apple logo. Rarely does a Mac laptop have cutting edge hardware across the board (see the graphics cards in laptops for an example of something that seems always a generation or more behind). The sad reality is that even though you're right, they'll continue to sell those laptops at a prodigious rate. Most people don't care about technical specs as much as they do the overall user experience.
beany boy
Mar 25, 02:46 PM
My upgrade went through without a hitch. They still make me a little nervous though. If it weren't for the battery life issue I might have skipped it.
APPLENEWBIE
Aug 4, 09:12 PM
Just saw a verizon commercial.. announcing a new phone. It was black, seemed to have an ipod-like click wheel, with a retractable keyboard in a vertical format.. and something about being announced 8.9.06..... do you suppose????
UPDATE... never mind. On the verizon site it is called Chocolate by LG. it is a v-cast phone / mp3 player.. Sorry.....
Updated update... I know it's not apple... but it ain't bad looking. looks to be about .5" taller than a credit card, and about .5" less wide. sort of too angular design....I think.
UPDATE... never mind. On the verizon site it is called Chocolate by LG. it is a v-cast phone / mp3 player.. Sorry.....
Updated update... I know it's not apple... but it ain't bad looking. looks to be about .5" taller than a credit card, and about .5" less wide. sort of too angular design....I think.
skier777
Mar 18, 07:16 PM
My 32GB ssd ipod mini is still going strong. These things last pretty well, so even if they discontinue them, buy one on ebay or something and it might last you until something else comes along.
tundrabuggy
Nov 2, 04:28 PM
Putting aside the fact that Flash is crap, fair enough for Adobe for being so frank.
You are in such a HUGE minority of Flash bashers....learn to love it!.....cuz just like taxes, you're gettin' it on your iPhone pal.
You are in such a HUGE minority of Flash bashers....learn to love it!.....cuz just like taxes, you're gettin' it on your iPhone pal.
iGav
Sep 13, 09:08 AM
I think they've ruined it myself. *sniff sniff*
Jaik
Mar 12, 09:06 PM
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cubist
Jul 4, 05:56 PM
That would be a gigantic step backwards. Only being able to run Applications deemed worthy by Apple? It maybe fine for your very average PC user who writes email, iWorks, and browses internet - but anyone else - crippling.
I suppose they could have two flavours of the OS - the locked down version called "Th iOS desktop Disney Edition"! :)
... as a developer, I'd like to have an App Store I could put apps in and have Apple take care of the shipping/marketing/etc., just cut me a check once a month. They could be Mac apps rather than iPad apps. You could also run the iPad or iPhone apps using a variation on the iPhone Simulator that comes with the SDK.
Now, I do think there is a problem with the App Store as it currently exists: there is not enough organization, so that it's difficult to find the app you really want. But that's a separate issue, and I'm sure it will get fixed over time.
I suppose they could have two flavours of the OS - the locked down version called "Th iOS desktop Disney Edition"! :)
... as a developer, I'd like to have an App Store I could put apps in and have Apple take care of the shipping/marketing/etc., just cut me a check once a month. They could be Mac apps rather than iPad apps. You could also run the iPad or iPhone apps using a variation on the iPhone Simulator that comes with the SDK.
Now, I do think there is a problem with the App Store as it currently exists: there is not enough organization, so that it's difficult to find the app you really want. But that's a separate issue, and I'm sure it will get fixed over time.
Le Big Mac
Sep 6, 08:19 AM
And $999? Holy...
Wow! That's great value. Although it looks like the edu-iMac (no bluetooth or superdrive or remote). But at least it's available for those without more money to spend.
As for the spread between 24" and MacPro . . . good that they're reducing the gap. Give people more options!
Wow! That's great value. Although it looks like the edu-iMac (no bluetooth or superdrive or remote). But at least it's available for those without more money to spend.
As for the spread between 24" and MacPro . . . good that they're reducing the gap. Give people more options!
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